Dos pasos para una Iluminación Integral

Andrew Cohen: En las circunstancias adecuadas, un individuo puede despertar a un estado de conciencia más elevado, y a una visión del mundo mayor, más profunda, más comprensiva y más inclusiva, que es absolutamente liberadora e inspiradora y que le dota de mucha más confianza. Pero la pregunta verdaderamente interesante e importante es: ¿Cómo podemos hacer de sí mismo esa realización más elevada y profunda? Hay un proceso muy delicado que sucede cuando los individuos pueden ver, reconocer y entender muchas de estas cosas, y al tiempo, a menos que sea perseguido conscientemente, es muy fácil el volver atrás a las estructuras cognitivas, valores y perspectivas que tenían, consciente e inconscientemente, antes de que despertaran a una perspectiva y valores integrales más profundos y elevados. Así que la parte más delicada y difícil del proceso va de aprender cómo atravesar uno mismo este territorio, el cómo dar estos audaces pasos hacia delante con su propia consciencia, con su propia cognición, con su propia alma.

Ken Wilber: Hay, en cierto modo, dos pasos delicado hacia un enfoque totalmente integral de la realización, la iluminación y la conciencia. Uno es el despojarse de la visión pluralista postmoderna del mundo. El segundo es, una vez que entiendes el estado integral teóricamente, encarnarlo personalmente, despertarse, tienes que hacerlo una realización genuina en tu propio ser. Y eso suele llevar práctica, en una comunidad espiritual. Esta es una de las razones por las que hemos venido llamando a estos diálogos que hemos tenido a lo largo de los años como “El Gurú y el Pandit.” Yo he representado la posición del pandit, dando la versión teórica y académica que se necesita-con suerte no de una manera seca y aburrida, sino de una manera espiritualmente viva. Nunca me he metido en el papel de ser un maestro espiritual o gurú. Pero hace falta un gurú, generalmente hablando, hace flata un camino espiritual y algún tipo de involucramiento en una comunidad espiritual para transformar este entendimiento teórico  en una entendimiento integral, encarnado, vivo y realizado. Es importante ver que estos dos son estados emergentes del desarrollo necesarios en el desarrollo de cada ser humano. Y para que podamos tener alguna especie de cultura armoniosa, necesitamos ambos. Necesitamos ir de una visión fragmentada a una visión integral-primero a nivel teórico, y luego tenemos que encontrar formar de encarnarla, de practicarla y de llevarla a la existencia.

Traducido por Pablo Nebreda

Two Steps to an Integral Enlightenment

Andrew Cohen: In the right circumstances, an individual can awaken to a higher state of consciousness and a bigger, deeper, more comprehensive, and more inclusive worldview that is absolutely liberating and inspiring and gives so much confidence. But then the interesting and important question is: How can they make that new deeper and higher recognition their own? There’s a delicate process that happens where individuals can see, recognize, and understand many of these things, and yet unless it’s consciously pursued, it’s very easy for them to fall back to cognitive structures, values, and perspectives that they were holding, both consciously and unconsciously, before they awakened to higher and deeper evolutionary and integral values and perspectives. So the most tricky and delicate part of this process is really about learning how to traverse this territory oneself, to make these bold steps forward with one’s own consciousness, with one’s own cognition, with one’s very own soul.

Ken Wilber: There are, in a sense, two delicate steps toward a fully integral approach to realization and enlightenment and consciousness. One is getting unstuck from the pluralistic postmodern worldview. The second is that once you understand the integral stage theoretically, then you have to embody it, you have to awaken to it, you have to make it a genuine realization in your own being. And that generally takes practice, in a spiritual community. This is one of the reasons we call these dialogues that you and I have been having over the years “The Guru and the Pandit.” I have represented the pandit position and raised the theoretical issues and many of the academic issues that need to be raised—hopefully not in a dry, dull sense but in a way that’s spiritually alive. I have never stepped into the public role of being a spiritual teacher or a guru. But it takes a guru, generally speaking, it takes a spiritual path and some sort of involvement with a spiritual community for people to convert this integral theoretical understanding to an integral, embodied, alive, realized understanding. It’s important to see that those are both necessary unfolding stages of development in every human being’s growth. And for us to be able to have a kind of harmonious culture, we need both of those steps. We need to move from a fragmented view to an integral view—first theoretically, and then we have to find ways to embody it, to practice it, and to bring it into being.

Andrew Cohen y Ken Wilber

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